Complete Waterbender's Source

owlcool · Jan 28, 2015

ILLFATE said:
watermanip has a cooldown.and the source does run out. this would give waterbenders superiority in where there is many sources.

Or. Someplace where there is a 4 by 4 source of water.

ILLFATE · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
Or. Someplace where there is a 4 by 4 source of water.

1 manip = 1 souce.

owlcool · Jan 28, 2015

ILLFATE said:
1 manip = 1 souce.

And then the source is replaced by the rest of the water for infinity. Adds on like half a second between watermanipulations at most.

ILLFATE · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
And then the source is replaced by the rest of the water for infinity. Adds on like half a second between watermanipulations at most.

what if the sources are plants? they dont regrow immediately. watermanip has a 1 sec cooldown.

owlcool · Jan 28, 2015

ILLFATE said:
what if the sources are plants? they dont regrow immediately. watermanip has a 1 sec cooldown.

Just like what fireblast has. And fireblast is blocked by watermanipulation. And if there are 10 plants behind a waterbender then the waterbender is more then able to block every fireblast with just watermanipulation, but fire is not exactly able to do that thing with fireblast. With fireshield and fireblast? Yes, but you miss the point of firebending in the very description of it if water is made to be more offensive then fire.

ILLFATE · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
Just like what fireblast has. And fireblast is blocked by watermanipulation. And if there are 10 plants behind a waterbender then the waterbender is more then able to block every fireblast with just watermanipulation, but fire is not exactly able to do that thing with fireblast. With fireshield and fireblast? Yes, but you miss the point of firebending in the very description of it if water is made to be more offensive then fire.

IF the waterbender has enough sources. im pretty sure that the firebender is smart enough to stay away from the sources

owlcool · Jan 28, 2015

ILLFATE said:
IF the waterbender has enough sources. im pretty sure that the firebender is smart enough to stay away from the sources

In which case, What after that? So are firebenders simply underpowered whenever waterbenders have a general 4 by 4 square of water? That doesn't seem like balancing to me.

ILLFATE · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
In which case, What after that? So are firebenders simply underpowered whenever waterbenders have a general 4 by 4 square of water? That doesn't seem like balancing to me.

it is balancing. somewhere in like the desert , firebenders are superior. and firebenders can burn the plants and snow anyways. how is that not balancing?

JewFroJustin · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
Just like what fireblast has. And fireblast is blocked by watermanipulation. And if there are 10 plants behind a waterbender then the waterbender is more then able to block every fireblast with just watermanipulation, but fire is not exactly able to do that thing with fireblast. With fireshield and fireblast? Yes, but you miss the point of firebending in the very description of it if water is made to be more offensive then fire.

Um, fire benders could also block water manip with their fire blast or fire shield. If fire blast and water manip have to same cooldown, then you should have no problem protecting yourself, while you also formulate a plan to get away using fire jet. Better yet, use the blaze-fire jet combo so you get an attack in while getting away. I think benders are well prepared to protect themselves from waterbenders, and this change is really needed.

EndersShadows · Jan 28, 2015

owlcool said:
And if there are 10 plants behind a waterbender then the waterbender is more then able to block every fireblast with just watermanipulation,.

This sentence, I would like to borrow someone's hand for a triple facepalm please. Is he implying that with only 10 plants, a waterbender can block 15 fireblasts?

Y U NO LOGIC

owlcool · Jan 28, 2015

EndersShadows said:
This sentence, I would like to borrow someone's hand for a triple facepalm please. Is he implying that with only 10 plants, a waterbender can block 15 fireblasts?

Y U NO LOGIC

Assuming there are 15 fireblasts at once there would have to be 15 firebenders. 15 benders against one person should be a unfair match in any and every case.
Y U NO LOGIC? BOOM, I STOLE THAT FROM YOUR OWN BOOK!!!!

Tony · Jan 28, 2015

Me likey

Migsel · Jan 28, 2015

Kids, let's get to a real argument here.

http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/68265-how-did-everything-really-begin/

Ready... FIGHT

owlcool · Jan 29, 2015

Ninjakid1324 said:
Kids, let's get to a real argument here.

http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/68265-how-did-everything-really-begin/

Ready... FIGHT

There is only ONE TRUE GOD!!!!

Jk, we all live in a matrix. ._.

Drummer3475 · Jan 29, 2015

omg gur this will make it faster to keep up with air benders and possibly defeat them

AT LAST

Finn_Bueno_ · Jan 29, 2015

I don't like the idea. I want to select my sources, so I know where my manips are coming from...

ILLFATE · Jan 29, 2015

finnbon said:
I don't like the idea. I want to select my sources, so I know where my manips are coming from...

But you still can! So that you can choose

owlcool · Jan 29, 2015

EndersShadows said:
This sentence, I would like to borrow someone's hand for a triple facepalm please. Is he implying that with only 10 plants, a waterbender can block 15 fireblasts?

Y U NO LOGIC

Can a firebender use 15 fireblasts at once? No, the firebender can't. A waterbender and 2 firebenders in a spam contest between watermanipulation and fireblast would still have the waterbender winning, with the many watermanipulations breaking through the few fireblasts. Now this increases the rate of watermanipulation to a much higher amount, a amount that was only possible underwater, making it possible anywhere you are nearby water. How can anyone think this is not simply a thread made to make it easier to spam watermanipulation and icespike, I don't know. If this gets added, air and fire is going to need some spam boosts too. And who is to say that boosting the ability for waterbenders to spam watermanipulation is not going to create even more lag then usual? I guess we will just have to find out through testing this overpowered idea out.

JewFroJustin · Jan 29, 2015

owlcool said:
Can a firebender use 15 fireblasts at once? No, the firebender can't. A waterbender and 2 firebenders in a spam contest between watermanipulation and fireblast would still have the waterbender winning, with the many watermanipulations breaking through the few fireblasts. Now this increases the rate of watermanipulation to a much higher amount, a amount that was only possible underwater, making it possible anywhere you are nearby water. How can anyone think this is not simply a thread made to make it easier to spam watermanipulation and icespike, I don't know. If this gets added, air and fire is going to need some spam boosts too. And who is to say that boosting the ability for waterbenders to spam watermanipulation is not going to create even more lag then usual? I guess we will just have to find out through testing this overpowered idea out.

Welp, now that you've stated your thoughts on this thread, are you done? I kinda like this idea, but your comments are putting a sour taste in my mouth

There's no need for you to continue fighting against this. It's being looked into so now it's up to the staff whether or not this move is actually implemented into the core plugin.

owlcool · Jan 29, 2015

JewFroJustin said:
Welp, now that you've stated your thoughts on this thread, are you done? I kinda like this idea, but your comments are putting a sour taste in my mouth There's no need for you to continue fighting against this. It's being looked into so now it's up to the staff whether or not this move is actually implemented into the core plugin.

It got looking into before I even commented, And I was the only person with these complaints. I kinda think I have enough reason to post them here, Wynaut?