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So, to the firebenders and other elements, you don't want water to have sources so they can come on land, but you don't want them in the water because of watercamping. Seems counterproductive to me.

Because, if these needs keep going, eventually there's gonna be a HUGE nerf that just makes water useless.

Well starting water from scratch isn't an option. It'd be too much to do. I'm js. Maybe allow the recycling of all moves containing water if reuse is added.

Wondering that too.

So, water cant be like water in the show. It cant be buffed so it can actually defend itself, but it needs to be changed. Stalemate.

Everyone seems to be focused on the idea that any buff will increase watercamping. Get this through. Unless you take out swiftswim, watercamping isnt going to stop. Adding or taking away from water isnt going to change anything.

A storm is coming... a storm of nerfs... canon will destroy us all....

Thats water REUSE. Thats not a problem, itd still be nerfed as soon as it was put in though. Unless it loses water everytime its used, BUT, it gets torrent ice back.

Well then, water has to be buffed in another way since fluid movement is immpossible.

This isnt a suggestion. Its a disscussion. Ive noticed their has been alot of nerfs because of pk's witch hunt for water campers. Theres been pushes to nerf water from its dmg output to a more smooth approach, yet no flexable style for water has been made yet. This thread has been made to allow...

That was... unexpected.... o.O

I think it's ok how it is, it's waters version of firebreath. It does no dmg, it's ice isn't even thick. Why would a waterbender use this combo. I feel this is unneeded. The whole reason it's used is because it's convenient and doesn't require a source.

Also, fire isn't suppose to be good in movement, it's suppose to be good in damage.

And that's what you're suppose to be, defenceless, fires moves consist mainly of all dmging moves.

And fire is a slow eleme- oh wait, I almost forgot about firejet, you know, the ability that allows you to make right turns that not even a military jet could make.

Exactly, nowhere Its too op. I agree with hero (for once), also, when you meditate you concentrate chi or other in your body. Your basically suggesting the same thing for fire. Fire isn't peaceful, it's good enough. Air needs meditate because it's literally about movement and low dmg. Its got...

No, because then it becomes spam. Its been denied twice, don't make it a usual thing.

So you want to give the most violent element a meditate like move. Ofc you do. But just because water can heal doesn't mean it can give itself strength. Your basing a new op move on a possible skill from a ability only a handful of firebenders possessed.

Fire is already a powerhouse, and the element of power, it doesn't need to get another buff.