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Ability Nerfs

Do you support these possible changes?

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Faecous

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So Right now I'd say that the plugin is highly unbalanced. I'd like to come with some suggestions to fix it or at least smooth things out a bit.

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The first move that desperately needs a Nerf is an obvious one, Metal Clips.
As of right now it is very, very OP. Here's why:
Even if you have 1 metal clip on you, you cannot bend, craft, rearrange your inventory and so on.
Let me repeat, If you get hit with ONE clip! ONE! You are doomed. And it's not like the clips are hard to hit either. Just spam and you're sure to hit.
Suggestions on how to fix:



Cool down:
Give it a serious cool down:
After having fired all 4 iron bars go ahead and give it a serious cool down.
An in between cool down: You can only shoot one clip per second, So It can't be spammed.

Reducing the control time:
Reduce the timer of the ability to control someone from 10 seconds to something like 5-3 seconds. And after you have controlled them you would have to refit the clips. I know that this might seem a bit much, which is why I suggest a small buff to compensate/new ability

Launch/trip/throw:
As a buff they could be able to launch someone a few blocks into the air, removing their fall dmg negating passive for enough time for them to take fall DMG. Only so high that they take 2-2.5 hearts worth of fall DMG though, not more than that.
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NEXT ABILITY!

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The new ability that I think needs a Nerf is the fire benders ability to cool down lava instantaneously.
Contrary to my belief fire benders can in fact cool lava with great concentration using a technique similar to how they would redirect lightning. As such it does not happen instantaneously in the series. They have to stand there concentrating for some time to draw the heat out from the lava in form of.... (Heat? (Air maybe I don't really know") xD
There is a reason fire benders don't do this to lava benders in battle, It is because it is not a battle technique. It is slow and unpractical, turning you into a stationary target for some time. It is not something that should be able to cool down lava faster then the lava bender can create it. As of right now the fire benders can freeze lava throw mid air using heat control. To me this is very, very unrealistic and not fair. Although I will admit is that lava bending needs a Nerf but that is something servers can decide for themselves (Using the configuration options)



(Note, this is only a nerf to cool down lava. Not extinguish fire or melt water.)

Fix suggestions:

Charge time extension

Turn it into a charge ability, something that would be handy while mining and to clear up the aftermath of lava bending but not something that is practical enough to use while battling.
Charge time: 10-15 seconds. This is to make it realistic.


I know you people probably expect me to want to nerf lava. But that nerfing is for the server owners to do with the configurable's. One of the reasons I think things like lava surge is not op is because it is so hard to hit... because of the delay. And yes I know a couple of tips and tricks with lava surge to make it almost instantaneous but the the source is so small you have to be super precise to hit at all.
I think that is about it.... If any of you have any suggestions as to what other abilleties I should compare to the series version please comment down bellow. And don't forget to vote!




 

Faecous

Verified Member
ONE MORE METAL NERF
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You should be able to bend as long as your not being controlled by the metal bender. So even if the metal is on you you can still bend as long as you are not being directly metal bendt up in the air or dragged around. :D
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Gamzee

God Tier Member
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In response to MetalClips nerfs. If there is only a 3-5 second control time, and you suggest having each clip have a cooldown of 1 second. That means it would be nigh impossible to apply the fourth clip. The launching someone in the air can be done if you have the second or third clips on them. You just look into the air. The fall damage negation does not seem very fitting. If they are an air/earth bender they should keep their passives and should change because of being dropped by MetalClips.
 

owlcool

Verified Member
Heat control has been the same for a LONG TIME. Since Orion's plugin it has been like that, and I have never thought it was op. Metal clips needs metal ingots.
 

Faecous

Verified Member
In response to MetalClips nerfs. If there is only a 3-5 second control time, and you suggest having each clip have a cooldown of 1 second. That means it would be nigh impossible to apply the fourth clip. The launching someone in the air can be done if you have the second or third clips on them. You just look into the air. The fall damage negation does not seem very fitting. If they are an air/earth bender they should keep their passives and should change because of being dropped by MetalClips.
I'm saying the controll time should be shorter, not the time the clips can stay on the body before you start controlling them. Just apply all the ingots first.
 

Faecous

Verified Member
Heat control has been the same for a LONG TIME. Since Orion's plugin it has been like that, and I have never thought it was op. Metal clips needs metal ingots.
I can give you some clips of it being kind of op, expect them sooner rather then later.
 

owlcool

Verified Member
Anyways, whytf would you be rearranging your inventory when a metalbender is basically bloodbending you? That is some terrible reasoning there.
 

owlcool

Verified Member
Not much breathing room in the no I like being op section, GODDAMNIT ZHU LI HOLD YOUR BREATH!!!
 

Faecous

Verified Member
Anyways, whytf would you be rearranging your inventory when a metalbender is basically bloodbending you? That is some terrible reasoning there.
I was just saying that it removes your ability to do anything. Why are you so goddamn negative? And haven't you lost Zhu Li?
 

Kiam

Verified Member
Yeah, metalclips is expensive to use. It's not common to have people with unlimited amounts of iron to spam at you.
 

Phorcys77

Verified Member
I think Metal Clips is a little too op. I was killed by someone using it on me while I was in creative. And the holding time needs to be shorter in my opinion.
 

Joeri

Verified Member
Heat control has been the same for a LONG TIME. Since Orion's plugin it has been like that, and I have never thought it was op. Metal clips needs metal ingots.
It isn't OP alone, But against lava it's OP as hell, Removing all your lava sources with 1 click
 

Faecous

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Yeah, metalclips is expensive to use. It's not common to have people with unlimited amounts of iron to spam at you.
Actually Metal isn't that expensive to use... Because you don't loose your iron.... unless you're careless.
 
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Joeri

Verified Member
MetalClips is indeed a bit OP because it blocks bending

Only nerf i suggest is to make it enable bending if you are equipped by it BUT not levitated.
 

CometBringer101

Verified Member
I believe heatcontrol should be the same as when versing a lavabender if u just accidently jump in or get forced in it can easily one-shot, so heatcontrol is really the only counter to this... and dont say "well lava is meant to be op..." yeh i agree but its not fair when you think about it... water gets bb, fire gets combustion and air doesnt really get anything while EARTH gets like 6 moves (addons included all of them) so firebenders are kinda like the opposite of lava like water and fire, water can put out fire, fire can cool down/heat up things.
 

Joeri

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I believe heatcontrol should be the same as when versing a lavabender if u just accidently jump in or get forced in it can easily one-shot, so heatcontrol is really the only counter to this... and dont say "well lava is meant to be op..." yeh i agree but its not fair when you think about it... water gets bb, fire gets combustion and air doesnt really get anything while EARTH gets like 6 moves (addons included all of them) so firebenders are kinda like the opposite of lava like water and fire, water can put out fire, fire can cool down/heat up things.
They can cool down things yes, But NEVER did they in an instant. Don't mix addons with default abilities.

HeatControl is simply OP against Lava Benders
 

Faecous

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They can cool down things yes, But NEVER did they in an instant. Don't mix addons with default abilities.

HeatControl is simply OP against Lava Benders
Yeah... and they can always fire jet out....right? If not... just try to not "accidentally" get caught in a lava pool.
 
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