Bubbles

[Taiko the Waterbender]

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So, the concept of WaterBubble (in Avatar Wiki, only known as Bubble) is pushing the water out, creating an air pocket (?).
At this moment in the plugin, you can be in the middle fo the ocean and just hold shift to give you air.​

What I suggest:​

• 1. Bubble can only be created if the bender is at the surface BEFORE the dive;
• 2. Only Waterbenders can penetrate inside the Bubble*;
• 3. The lower it gets, ther harder will be to the bender to keep the Bubble.
• 4. The bubble would only be created block by block, and not just poofing, as it is right now.

Reasons:

• 1. In "The Legend of Korra" neither in "The Last Airbender" we saw Waterbenders creating bubbles underwater. Only at surface. After the bubble's creation, you keep pushing water throw the water body you are interested on.
• 2. In "The Last Airbender" (Book: Earth / The Serpent's Pass), Katara showed to us the (Water)Bubble techninque. She pushed water waves away from her and the other people. With this, every bender that tries to enter the bubble from the outside, will be pushed back. Only Waterbenders, with the swimming passive, can get inside it without getting pushed.
• 3. In the same episode, the last southern waterbender needed Aang's help to sustain the bubble due the weight of the water and pressure. In alone, the Waterbender would only be capable of keeping the waterbubble under 10 from where the bubble was created during daytime, 15 during night time and 20 blocks during the Full Moon before teh bubble collapses.
• 4. Katara needed some time to create the bubble. So the Waterbender's bubble would take 2 seconds to form at day time, 1.5 seconds at night time and Full Moon*.

Note:

• Two Waterbenders can combine efforts to create a larger bubble if they are in maximum of five blocks of each other. This would increase the bubble's size and the maximum depth.
• Airbenders should have the same changes with AirBubble, except the information that has an *.
  • Airbenders' bubble wouldn't push enemies off, as they aren't pushing directly the water from entering the bubble.
  • Airbenders' bubble would collapse if they are away 10 blocks deep from where they started the bubble.
  • Two Airbenders can also help each other creating a larger bubble and going deeper. With help, Airbenders would be capable of take the bubble deeper 10 blocks more.
  • A Waterbender and an Airbender can help each other. The results would be the same as said above: to the Waterbender's bubble, would be add 10 more blocks.
  • Airbenders would need 5 seconds in order to create their own bubble.

In conclusion:

• Bubbles can now be teamed;
• Every Waterbender would add to the maximum depth 10 blocks at daytime, 15 at night time and 20 during the Full Moon to an already existing bubble, and enlarge the bubble's radius in five blocks.
• Every Airbender would add to the maximum depth 10 blocks to an already existing bubble, and enlarge the bubble's radius in two blocks.

Example:

Taiko and Wongshi were having a beach party, so decided to go on a dive. In order to hide from Weijin, a criminal combustionbender that wants to kill them, running as fast as they could, they reached the coast. Weijin, once she could see them, launched combustion beams, each were parcially deflected by Wong manipulating the air currents. While Wongshi was holding the firebender away, Taiko created a bubble, pushing the water away. He was going into the sea when called Wongshi to come. At sometime, the weight of the water began to tire Taiko, so he asked Wongshi for help. With his support, the bubble, which was starting to collapse become stronger. What the two boys didn't noticed, it was that Weijin also went swimming. But when she tried to enter inside the bubble, Taiko's constant movements pushed her away. Then the world exploded. The End.

EnderDudas as @Taiko
@PoopMasterPT as Wongshi
TitaBoomBoom as Weijin​

 

[Hero]

I like the idea of the bubbles having a certain range of how low they can go, but how exactly would the bubbles be a team effort?

 

[BlueGhost]

By being 2 people (waterbender or airbender) using bubbles in the same area they would create an bigger bubble and that can go deeper

 

[Taiko the Waterbender]

By being 2 people (waterbender or airbender) using bubbles in the same area they would create an bigger bubble and that can go deeper

Exacly :3
More benders means more strenght against the water.

 

[HydroMan]

Hello!

Hi

• 3. The lower it gets, ther harder will be to the bender to keep the Bubble.

• 3. In the same episode, the last southern waterbender needed Aang's help to sustain the bubble due the weight of the water and pressure. In alone, the Waterbender would only be capable of keeping the waterbubble under 10 from where the bubble was created during daytime, 15 during night time and 20 blocks during the Full Moon before teh bubble collapses.

Come again? I don't understand that part?

Reasons:

• 1. In "The Legend of Korra" neither in "The Last Airbender" we saw Waterbenders creating bubbles underwater. Only at surface. After the bubble's creation, you keep pushing water throw the water body you are interested on.
• 2. In "The Last Airbender" (Book: Earth / The Serpent's Pass), Katara showed to us the (Water)Bubble techninque. She pushed water waves away from her and the other people. With this, every bender that tries to enter the bubble from the outside, will be pushed back. Only Waterbenders, with the swimming passive, can get inside it without getting pushed.

• 4. Katara needed some time to create the bubble. So the Waterbender's bubble would take 2 seconds to form at day time, 1.5 seconds at night time and Full Moon*.

1. The Reason I think of why they didn't activate bubble shield in the water, is that they know if they did that, they might fall in and injure themselves, as the water would immediately disappear. On second thought, as you said they push away water slowly, so it's unlikely to happen.
2&4. Depending of what kind of bubble variation we are talking about. There is one that Katara used on Appa's/Bison's head, which was covered in a pocket of air bubble made out of water. The Bubble you are describing doesn't seem to be as fast as the other one and I believe others would be able to penetrate the bubble I just told you about.

Note:

• Two Waterbenders can combine efforts to create a larger bubble if they are in maximum of five blocks of each other. This would increase the bubble's size and the maximum depth.
• Airbenders shouldof what kin have the same changes with AirBubble, except the information that has an *.
  • Airbenders' bubble wouldn't push enemies off, as they aren't pushing directly the water from entering the bubble.
  • Airbenders' bubble would collapse if they are away 10 blocks deep from where they started the bubble.
  • Two Airbenders can also help each other creating a larger bubble and going deeper. With help, Airbenders would be capable of take the bubble deeper 10 blocks more.
  • A Waterbender and an Airbender can help each other. The results would be the same as said above: to the Waterbender's bubble, would be add 10 more blocks.
  • Airbenders would need 5 seconds in order to create their own bubble.

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This seems so unnecessary. You could like already to this, just by telling your waterbending/airbending buddy to move further away from you with the bubble. Besides that, this thing would perfectly fit for the idea of @Easte's "Team Moves" concept, so this could be probably applied to that.

 

[Taiko the Waterbender]

Come again? I don't understand that part?

I'm sorry if I didn't used the correct words in that case.
I meant that, the more you go deeper underwater, the hardest it is to stablize the bubble, ending in it collapsing.

1. The Reason I think of why they didn't activate bubble shield in the water, is that they know if they did that, they might fall in and injure themselves, as the water would immediately disappear. On second thought, as you said they push away water slowly, so it's unlikely to happen.

I know, but where would the air came from? If you create a bubble underwater by pushing the water off, technically, that "void" bubble wouldn't be breathable, as it doesn't have anything in it.

2&4. Depending of what kind of bubble variation we are talking about. There is one that Katara used on Appa's/Bison's head, which was covered in a pocket of air bubble made out of water. The Bubble you are describing doesn't seem to be as fast as the other one and I believe others would be able to penetrate the bubble I just told you about.

You are right :3 But there is no way we could choose the size of the bubble, and so, the speed of the bubble's creation, by just shifting or clicking with the ability :\

This seems so unnecessary. You could like already to this, just by telling your waterbending/airbending buddy to move further away from you with the bubble. Besides that, this thing would perfectly fit for the idea of @Easte's "Team Moves" concept, so this could be probably applied to that.

So you agree with this or nah? o.o

 

[SuperBower118]

This seems so unnecessary. You could like already to this, just by telling your waterbending/airbending buddy to move further away from you with the bubble. Besides that, this thing would perfectly fit for the idea of @Easte's "Team Moves" concept, so this could be probably applied to that.

With Taiko's suggestion to make the bubble bigger, you can also expand the bubble vertically too, which is something you can't do with another person using waterbubble.

 

[promancer]

I'm sorry if I didn't used the correct words in that case.
I meant that, the more you go deeper underwater, the hardest it is to stablize the bubble, ending in it collapsing.

Invalid, waterbenders can change waterpressure, as shown with watermanipulation slicing through solid boulders.

 

[promancer]

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• 1. Bubble can only be created if the bender is at the surface BEFORE the dive;

How would this work? How does it determine what is and isnt "surface"?

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• 3. The lower it gets, ther harder will be to the bender to keep the Bubble.

So... more of a duration? Your logic behind this is that the bender eventually gets tired, so, rpg section? This has been said in @BlueGhost's thread about spamming.

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• 3. In the same episode, the last southern waterbender needed Aang's help to sustain the bubble due the weight of the water and pressure. In alone, the Waterbender would only be capable of keeping the waterbubble under 10 from where the bubble was created during daytime, 15 during night time and 20 blocks during the Full Moon before teh bubble collapses.

Note:

• Two Waterbenders can combine efforts to create a larger bubble if they are in maximum of five blocks of each other. This would increase the bubble's size and the maximum depth.

In conclusion:

• Bubbles can now be teamed;

Teambending has already been suggested, so try to pay credit to @Janny's thread?
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• 4. Katara needed some time to create the bubble. So the Waterbender's bubble would take 2 seconds to form at day time, 1.5 seconds at night time and Full Moon*.

I think this was more action driven than canon.
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• • Airbenders' bubble would collapse if they are away 10 blocks deep from where they started the bubble.
  • Airbenders would need 5 seconds in order to create their own bubble.

You realize how ridiculously useless this makes airbubble right? 10 blocks? Cant even be used to build underwater, much less travel.

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[HydroMan]

I'm sorry if I didn't used the correct words in that case.
I meant that, the more you go deeper underwater, the hardest it is to stablize the bubble, ending in it collapsing.

I know, but where would the air came from? If you create a bubble underwater by pushing the water off, technically, that "void" bubble wouldn't be breathable, as it doesn't have anything in it.

You are right :3 But there is no way we could choose the size of the bubble, and so, the speed of the bubble's creation, by just shifting or clicking with the ability :\

So you agree with this or nah? o.o

Ok, I understand. I don't know what should I feel about that.

Your statement kinda makes senses.

Im thinking an alternative to this could be applied. Like maybe right clicking the ground to make the.... Ahhh, forget it. It would be useless on what I was about to tell. ;p

I don't know. It still does not make any difference.

 

[HydroMan]

With Taiko's suggestion to make the bubble bigger, you can also expand the bubble vertically too, which is something you can't do with another person using waterbubble.

Oh yea. It still.wouldn't be a problem for airbenders (airspout).

 

[SuperBower118]

Oh yea. It still.wouldn't be a problem for airbenders (airspout).

But then some water UNDER the airbender could appear....

 

[HydroMan]

But then some water UNDER the airbender could appear....

Not if the waterbender is below him with the bubble.

 

[Taiko the Waterbender]

How would this work? How does it determine what is and isnt "surface"?

It determines seeing if the player has his/her head under or above water.

So... more of a duration? Your logic behind this is that the bender eventually gets tired, so, rpg section? This has been said in @BlueGhost's thread about spamming.

Not really tired. If someone asks you to lift a pencil, you actually can lift it. If someone asks you to lift a car, it would be harder for you than lifting a pencil. That doesn't mean that you would be tired of lifting it, you simply can't apply enough force to keep it lifted and/or starting lifting it.

Teambending has already been suggested, so try to pay credit to @Janny's thread?

I'm sorry if you got offended by the non-mention of @Janny's thread, but by the time I posted this thread, I didn't have any knowledge about his idea on team moves.

I think this was more action driven than canon.

Yes, it was. Just trying to keep it close to the show.

You realize how ridiculously useless this makes airbubble right? 10 blocks? Cant even be used to build underwater, much less travel.

I do realize how Airbending is buffed in water terms. Currently, an Airbender has more mobility on water then Waterbenders.
Remember that the Airbender is controlling the air in the bubble, not the water. Why is it harder to create a bubble with a straw in a banana milkshake than in a water glass? Because the milkshake is denser, and so, it is harder to push the water back.

Invalid, waterbenders can change waterpressure, as shown with watermanipulation slicing through solid boulders.

How does it invalid my point?
My thesis is based on the following assumptions:

If Waterbenders are able to waterbend, they are capable of creating bubbles in the water.
The Waterbenders are able to waterbend.
Therefore, the Waterbenders are capable of creating bubbles in the water.

If Waterbenders create bubbles by pushing water out, if you can not push the water out, it is not possible to create a bubble.
The Waterbenders create bubbles by pushing the water out.
So, if you can not push water out, you can not create a bubble.

If you can not push water out, it is because a force is opposed to Waterbender.
You can not push water out.
Thus, a force opposes Waterbender.

If water has density, the more water there is in a square meter the denser becomes that area.
Water has density.
Therefore, the more water there is in a square meter the denser becomes that area.

If in the bottom of the ocean the amount of water is larger in square meter, the density is higher.
On the ocean floor the amount of water is greater in a square meter.
Therefore the density is higher.

The more dense an area, the more difficult the movement.

If it's necessary movement to push water out, the more difficult it turns to the Waterbender create a bubble in high densities.
It is necessary movement to push water out.
Therefore, the more difficult it turns to the Waterbender create a bubble in high densities.

 

[SuperBower118]

Not if the waterbender is below him with the bubble.

Then the bubble doesn't become wider...

 

[HydroMan]

Then the bubble doesn't become wider...

Why not? Is the spout to short for the airbender to go further away from the W-Bender?

 

[SuperBower118]

Why not? Is the spout to short for the airbender to go further away from the W-Bender?

On the left side are the possible bubble combinations right now. On the right side, is what the bubble would look like with two bubble r s. While with two bubble r s current day, you can expand in one direction, with the combined bubble, you can expand in ALL directions, maybe not as much, but it's in all directions.

 

[HydroMan]

On the left side are the possible bubble combinations right now. On the right side, is what the bubble would look like with two bubble r s. While with two bubble r s current day, you can expand in one direction, with the combined bubble, you can expand in ALL directions, maybe not as much, but it's in all directions.

That would seem kinda nice. Like I said, it could be applied with Janny's team suggestion. I say each two bender need to be further apart of each other, 7-16 blocks. This will not only expand the walls of bubble how it originally does, but it will increase the bubble size by 2x (multiplied by 2 the oridinary bubbles sizes, including the celling).

 

[Taiko the Waterbender]

That would seem kinda nice. Like I said, it could be applied with Janny's team suggestion. I say each two bender need to be further apart of each other, 7-16 blocks. This will not only expand the walls of bubble how it originally does, but it will increase the bubble size by 2x (multiplied by 2 the oridinary bubbles sizes, including the celling).

Two Waterbenders can combine efforts to create a larger bubble if they are in maximum of five blocks of each other. This would increase the bubble's size and the maximum depth.

 

[Janny]

Teambending has already been suggested, so try to pay credit to @Janny's thread?

I'm sorry if you got offended by the non-mention of @Janny's thread, but by the time I posted this thread, I didn't have any knowledge about his idea on team moves.

I don't believe in credits. People who say "Why didn't you give me credit?" are people who just want to be noticed. Credit is something that should be done out of the kindness of a person's heart not something that is forced.