Suggestion Comet Boost Details

[owlcool]

I was thinking that since water has the nice little aspect of surge shield being increased in size, why not give firebending the same treatment? During sozin's comet, firebending would get either a boost to range, decreased cooldown and increased speed.
Range Boost: All moves would get a much larger increased range, and once it has surpassed that range if you click on the fireblast slot the move fireblast would stop at that point and start again.This may have the potential to not effect lightning moves, since lightning didn't really show much change during Sozin's Comet.
Decreased Cooldown and Increased Speed: The speed of moves like fireblast would be increased, and to compensate for the potential of it being the same speed when in close range the cooldown would also be decreased. This would effect all moves, but it could still have the potential to not change the warmup and cooldown of lightning, since lightning didn't really show much change during the solar eclipse.
Fire Shields Size Upgrade: As Jeong Jeong was able to make much more powerful and larger walls of fire, you would make bigger fireshields and walls of fire, The shields would also do more fire damage along the way.

 

[Orion_Solus]

Makes sense + Vote
But (there always is a but) I don't think that fireburst should be effected because of lag issues.

 

[owlcool]

Makes sense + Vote
But (there always is a but) I don't think that fireburst should be effected because of lag issues.

Fireburst is already explosive enough, maybe just damage increase.

 

[Orion_Solus]

Fireburst is already explosive enough, maybe just damage increase.

I'm pretty sure that fireburst already gets a damage increase with sozin's comet (but might be wrong)

 

[WaterFan99]

Like.

 

[owlcool]

I'm pretty sure that fireburst already gets a damage increase with sozin's comet (but might be wrong)

Then increase to the duration of fireburst flames, or just how long people stay on fire.

 

[Pickle9775]

I was thinking that moves like fireblast should be wider/taller, or just be a steady stream of fire until you switch slots. Blaze could also automatically flow until you change slots. There could be a range buff, because:

That is a heck of a lot of range and random fire nation soldiers were able to easily pull that off..

They weren't Random Fire nation soldiers. They were Elite guards, who were in the same rank as Ozai, The Imperial Firebenders. If any and all soldiers were capable of that, they would have had more airships. Speaking of being the same rank as Ozai, that IS Ozai in the picture. If you go back and watch the episode, then you would know that is Ozai.Proof: Long, flowing, black hair, and the fact that the airship is decorated with gold plating.

 

[owlcool]

They weren't Random Fire nation soldiers. They were Elite guards, who were in the same rank as Ozai, The Imperial Firebenders. If any and all soldiers were capable of that, they would have had more airships. Speaking of being the same rank as Ozai, that IS Ozai in the picture. If you go back and watch the episode, then you would know that is Ozai.Proof: Long, flowing, black hair, and the fact that the airship is decorated with gold plating.

And if you could try to find me a picture of the underlings to Ozai, Proof that Ozai is a Above Average Firebender, and proof that they were elite guards and not simple underlings, as people such as Zuko and Azula would have been able to do the same, and were shown to do the same, and random fire nation soldiers in the ships were able to be a very large threat to Toph during sozin's comet and she was a metalbender, something the firebenders had never seen before, and then agree to actually make yourself useful while arguing then I might start respecting your opinion.

 

[Pickle9775]

Okay, proof that Ozai is above average, and that Azula/Zuko couldn't do it

Look how quickly Ozai can generate lightning WITHOUT a comet

Look how slowly Azula generate lightning WITH a comet

Clearly Ozai is a better firebender than Azula

Second, the Imperial firebenders are seen here with Iroh:

and they were also on board Azula's ship:

And last they were on board the airship fighting against Toph and Sokka:

 

[owlcool]

Okay, proof that Ozai is above average, and that Azula/Zuko couldn't do it

Look how quickly Ozai can generate lightning WITHOUT a comet

Look how slowly Azula generate lightning WITH a comet

Clearly Ozai is a better firebender than Azula

Second, the Imperial firebenders are seen here with Iroh:

and they were also on board Azula's ship:

And last they were on board the airship fighting against Toph and Sokka:

So instead of making yourself useful, you decide to argue. Great job at resisting human nature.

 

[owlcool]

Okay, proof that Ozai is above average, and that Azula/Zuko couldn't do it

Look how quickly Ozai can generate lightning WITHOUT a comet

Look how slowly Azula generate lightning WITH a comet

Clearly Ozai is a better firebender than Azula

Second, the Imperial firebenders are seen here with Iroh:

and they were also on board Azula's ship:

And last they were on board the airship fighting against Toph and Sokka:

Would you like me to wait for you to make yourself useful like I asked or would you like me to argue against your points? Your choice. Anyways, the point of this thread is that firebending during sozin's comet is MUCH stronger then waterbending on a full moon. There is no arguing against that.

 

[Pickle9775]

So instead of making yourself useful, you decide to argue. Great job at resisting human nature.

1. I did what you asked and found proof, and then you disregard it
2. Who do you think you are deciding whose useful and who is not? You have such an ego complex. You see all your ideas as if they were created by Mike and Bryan themselves. When somebody pokes a hole in them, you instantly think "They must be giving into the basic human nature". Why do you get so butt hurt when people don't worship and follow you?

 

[owlcool]

1. I did what you asked and found proof, and then you disregard it
2. Who do you think you are deciding whose useful and who is not? You have such an ego complex. You see all your ideas as if they were created by Mike and Bryan themselves. When somebody pokes a hole in them, you instantly think "They must be giving into the basic human nature". Why do you get so butt hurt when people don't worship and follow you?

I asked you to give me a picture of some of the other stuff, such as the other firebender's during sozin's comet in the other airships. Instead, you decide to continue to argue. 2. When your entire argument against a thread's existence is the name of it, that is when I am going to bring in human nature. When you are the first person to insult another, and after multiple posts the other person has not insulted the other, which do you think would not be giving into their urges to argue instead of trying to make something useful? And comparing father to daughter is not the most swimmingly thing to do, especially when you have fickle things like lightning as examples. To help explain, Azula undoubtedly had very powerful lightning, and was quite quick to generate it. However, Mako was able to generate his lightning at a much quicker rate, but at the expense of that it was less powerful.

 

[Pickle9775]

And if you could try to find me a picture of the underlings to Ozai, Proof that Ozai is a Above Average Firebender, and proof that they were elite guards and not simple underlings, as people such as Zuko and Azula would have been able to do the same, and were shown to do the same, and random fire nation soldiers in the ships were able to be a very large threat to Toph during sozin's comet and she was a metalbender, something the firebenders had never seen before, and then agree to actually make yourself useful while arguing then I might start respecting your opinion.

1. I provided pictures of what you asked, Proof Ozai is above the average firebender, and proof that the other benders in the ship were elite firebenders.
2. Stop making the "human nature" argument. Last time I checked, you were human too. Also, you are continuing to argue with me, so you're not innocent here.
3. I'm allowed to have two arguments. I'm arguing the title of white_knights and the concept here because it's the same thing. The name is what brought it to my attention, and you brought up this page to that thread.

 

[owlcool]

1. I provided pictures of what you asked, Proof Ozai is above the average firebender, and proof that the other benders in the ship were elite firebenders.
2. Stop making the "human nature" argument. Last time I checked, you were human too. Also, you are continuing to argue with me, so you're not innocent here.
3. I'm allowed to have two arguments. I'm arguing the title of white_knights and the concept here because it's the same thing. The name is what brought it to my attention, and you brought up this page to that thread.

1. Then take this as a additional request, would you mind posting a picture of the other firebenders?
2. I am trying not to argue to win, you seem to not understand that. Humanity does not argue to find the truth/who is right and wrong, they argue to win.
3. I am not saying you aren't allowed to have two arguments, and I am not trying to.

 

[Pickle9775]

1. Then take this as a additional request, would you mind posting a picture of the other firebenders?
2. I am trying not to argue to win, you seem to not understand that. Humanity does not argue to find the truth/who is right and wrong, they argue to win.
3. I am not saying you aren't allowed to have two arguments, and I am not trying to.

1. Okay, you skip to 7:08, or watch the entire thing since it's a great sequence:

2. Then why are you arguing? And you can do both. I'm arguing to make sure you all see the truth in my statement, and in doing so I would win. Nothing is black and white.
3. Okay then.

 

[owlcool]

1. Okay, you skip to 7:08, or watch the entire thing since it's a great sequence:

2. Then why are you arguing? And you can do both. I'm arguing to make sure you all see the truth in my statement, and in doing so I would win. Nothing is black and white.
3. Okay then.

2.

Spoiler: Black and White

Like I said on another thread, Sozin's comet is simply weaker then the full moon. The stat boosts are the same, but waterbending gets boosted in width of defensive moves such as defensive surge. Wouldn't it make sense to boost sozin's comet more then the full moon, since it is simply shown that Sozin's comet can buff firebenders more then the full moon can buff waterbenders, at the very least it should get a buff in fireshield and walloffire's size, at a compromise it can get a buff in range and speed of firebending, and at best we can represent firebending like it is in the show but to have sozin's comet be much much rarer like it is in the show.

 

[Pickle9775]

2.

Spoiler: Black and White

Like I said on another thread, Sozin's comet is simply weaker then the full moon. The stat boosts are the same, but waterbending gets boosted in width of defensive moves such as defensive surge. Wouldn't it make sense to boost sozin's comet more then the full moon, since it is simply shown that Sozin's comet can buff firebenders more then the full moon can buff waterbenders, at the very least it should get a buff in fireshield and walloffire's size, at a compromise it can get a buff in range and speed of firebending, and at best we can represent firebending like it is in the show but to have sozin's comet be much much rarer like it is in the show.

I honestly, hope to Raava that you are joking about the black and white thing.

I do believe we can compromise on the comet. FireShield, and WallOfFire should be bigger during the comet, perhaps the cool down of some moves should be decreased, while the range or speed of others should be increased. Is that a fair agreement?

 

[owlcool]

I honestly, hope to Raava that you are joking about the black and white thing.

I do believe we can compromise on the comet. FireShield, and WallOfFire should be bigger during the comet, perhaps the cool down of some moves should be decreased, while the range or speed of others should be increased. Is that a fair agreement?

1. Yes I am joking, How is that not obvious with the last picture being a troll face? xD

2. That is a more then fair agreement, because it is the whole point of this thread, to increase the little points of firebending that waterbending has, and firebending lacks. xD

 

[Pickle9775]

1. Yes I am joking, How is that not obvious with the last picture being a troll face? xD

2. That is a more then fair agreement, because it is the whole point of this thread, to increase the little points of firebending that waterbending has, and firebending lacks. xD

I think I may have mentally fused your post with White_Knight's because of the same image being used. But what do you think, decreased cooldown, increased speed, or increased range? Whichever you think is best, I give my recommendation that you change your post to portray that.