Complete Heat Control Change

DanStryder · Feb 3, 2015

You're far from civil if you are not confronted about it, notice how you are changing tack, also common sense usually helps with socialising, like how to structure a conversation.

As for respect, no I don't respect you but can you blame me? I'm sorry but it's not just this thread you have been rude on, the way you start straight off the bat with rude comments that could've been a lot kinder or even toned down. Faecous is also my friend, I really didn't like how you spoke to him. I think I'm well within my rights to be just a bit annoyed with you. I'd rather not carry this "debate" on at this current moment so I don't intend to reply until the morning. Hopefully by then you might actually practise this respect you say you have for me as another person.

owlcool · Feb 3, 2015

DanStryder said:
You're far from civil if you are not confronted about it, notice how you are changing tack, also common sense usually helps with socialising, like how to structure a conversation.

As for respect, no I don't respect you but can you blame me? I'm sorry but it's not just this thread you have been rude on, the way you start straight off the bat with rude comments that could've been a lot kinder or even toned down. Faecous is also my friend, I really didn't like how you spoke to him. I think I'm well within my rights to be just a bit annoyed with you. I'd rather not carry this "debate" on at this current moment so I don't intend to reply until the morning. Hopefully by then you might actually practise this respect you say you have for me as another person.

And yet, you still practice hypocrisy. It is not okay for me to say something to your friend, that you said to me unprovoked? How nice of you, defending your friend like that.

Gold · Feb 3, 2015

owlcool said:
And yet, you still practice hypocrisy. It is not okay for me to say something to your friend, that you said to me unprovoked? How nice of you, defending your friend like that.

Lel, friendship is magic x.x. (Sorry Owlcool)

owlcool · Feb 3, 2015

Gold said:
Lel, friendship is magic x.x. (Sorry Owlcool)

Faecous · Feb 4, 2015

owlcool said:
If you are complaining about the lava turning to cobble, make a bug report and say that is unfair, and it should be fixed. Don't suggest, lets debuff a major move of a element that has been in the plugin for a couple years. If you are in the middle of pvp, a average firebender isn't going to use heatcontrol the second lava appears, they are going to use it the second they fall into lava.

I know you and my friend (as well as other nice people) have been arguing for a bit. But I just wanted to say that It's not the fact that the lava gets turned specificly into cobble that bothers me. It's the fact that it can be frozen in mid air. Does that not seem a tad unrealistic to you?

Sketz · Feb 4, 2015

Faecous said:
I know you and my friend (as well as other nice people) have been arguing for a bit. But I just wanted to say that It's not the fact that the lava gets turned specificly into cobble that bothers me. It's the fact that it can be frozen in mid air. Does that not seem a tad unrealistic to you?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but;
It isn't a bug, so it would be pointless to make a bug report over it.
So yeah, you're right to make this a suggestion.
besides, i wouldn't want to make a bug report, since it's already suggested to be changed.

Faecous · Feb 4, 2015

SkitzCrafter said:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but;
It isn't a bug, so it would be pointless to make a bug report over it.
So yeah, you're right to make this a suggestion.
besides, i wouldn't want to make a bug report, since it's already suggested to be changed.

Yeah, I'm just using it as an example of showing how unrealistically fast fire benders can cool lava as opposed to lava benders.

owlcool · Feb 4, 2015

SkitzCrafter said:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but;
It isn't a bug, so it would be pointless to make a bug report over it.
So yeah, you're right to make this a suggestion.
besides, i wouldn't want to make a bug report, since it's already suggested to be changed.

How would it not be a glitch for heatcontrol to be able to unfreeze icespike ice? Same principles.

Sketz · Feb 4, 2015

HeatControl is built to melt Ice, cool lava, put out fires, and making you immune to fire damage.
Thus making it able to melt Ice, cool lava in mid air, or on ground, and put out fires.

It's not a glitch.

HydroMan · Feb 4, 2015

owlcool said:
How would it not be a glitch for heatcontrol to be able to unfreeze icespike ice? Same principles.

Because the surface of ice melts? So the spikes should have rights to melt? right...?

DanStryder · Feb 4, 2015

Faecous is referring to the speed of how fast you cool the lava, not the ability too, it's obvious that fire has the ability to as been shown in the show.

But the speed of the cooling is what this whole thread is about. It's essentially molten earth, so you'd think the master of that element should have the most control over it.

owlcool · Feb 4, 2015

DanStryder said:
Faecous is referring to the speed of how fast you cool the lava, not the ability too, it's obvious that fire has the ability to as been shown in the show.

But the speed of the cooling is what this whole thread is about. It's essentially molten earth, so you'd think the master of that element should have the most control over it.

Simple addition then. Suggest a addition to lavabending that cools lava like heatcontrol. Heatcontrol is by no means overpowered unless someone abuses it by glitching it just right like how apparently heatcontrol can cool lava from lavathrow in the air. Yeah, make a bug report for that, not a thread effectivly making heatcontrol's main use be to prevent you from dieing of your own fire. Oh wait, it already is that!!! What a useless move heatcontrol is. It keeps you from burning yourself to death, and only if you switch slots in time.

DanStryder · Feb 4, 2015

Right, Wheaton's Law look it up.

Also it's not a bug that Lava is cooled instantly by HeatControl. That's what it's meant to be at the moment hence why Faecous suggested it.

owlcool · Feb 4, 2015

DanStryder said:
Right, Wheaton's Law look it up.

Also it's not a bug that Lava is cooled instantly by HeatControl. That's what it's meant to be at the moment hence why Faecous suggested it.

The bug that I am talking about and seems to be a major point you guys use is that heatcontrol can freeze lava from lavaflow while it isin the air into cobblestone.

DanStryder · Feb 4, 2015

Fae was referring to LavaThrow by Jedk1. I didn't think it was possible to get lava in mid air from LavaFlow.

Also our main point is Lava in general being cooled way too quick by HeatControl, whether or not it's an addon move or a core move.

owlcool · Feb 4, 2015

DanStryder said:
Fae was referring to LavaThrow by Jedk1. I didn't think it was possible to get lava in mid air from LavaFlow.

Also our main point is Lava in general being cooled way too quick by HeatControl, whether or not it's an addon move or a core move.

It is a core move that has been in the plugin before lavabending, which should take priority to not be changed?

Faecous · Feb 5, 2015

owlcool said:
It is a core move that has been in the plugin before lavabending, which should take priority to not be changed?

When will you get through your head that what came first does not have to have the biggest priority! Especially seeing as a slight altertion to heat controll would fix the issue.

DanStryder · Feb 5, 2015

owlcool said:
It is a core move that has been in the plugin before lavabending, which should take priority to not be changed?

I already knew that... I've been using bending plugin for over 2 years, I might just know what moves were in MinecraftTLA. So thank you for that Captain Obvious for that pointless fact. Seeing as some of the original moves have been modified, it doesn't really matter if it's a PK move or a MTLA move.

I know you might only be 14 but understand what this thread is about and what we've said that all we want is the ability to be a longer to use on Lava only. Our reasoning is because Fire is a small amount of heat in comparison to Lava and that only 1 very accomplished Fire Bender has been able to display HeatControl being used on Lava. It took Bolin 1 second to cool the lava that was following him and the air benders in the air temple, it wasn't exactly a small amount. Had a fire bender tried it, he would've taken a lot longer and also redirected the heat at the people behind him as it was a small space to work in. If you say that HeatControl on Lava in the show isn't redirection of the heat, look at screenshots in previous posts in this thread.

As for your reply, make it something that's actually constructive instead of being a brat who can't get his own way because I'm sick of your replies being barbed and disrespectful.

Loony · Apr 25, 2016

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