Fire Blast Redirection

[Moonelight]

Demonstrated by Avatar Wan in Begginnings Part 1, he took control of a blast of fire thrown at him by hunters from the Lion Turtle City.

"Flame redirection: In a similar fashion to waterbending, firebenders are capable of changing the course of an incoming fire blast and redirecting it back at the attacker using fluid motion. This move exemplifies the use of firebending as an extension of the body and is used infrequently in modern combat in favor of more offensive maneuvers." - Wiki

Keeping it simple, all that this Firebending move would need to be controled is either Shifting or Clicking at a blast of fire while it is coming at you. Once either of those two gestures are used (I will let he Devs choose) the blast of fire coming towards you will be turned around and blasted at the user who originally shot it. This technique adds some new styles to the plugin and gives Firebenders a new twist in Agni Kai.

I hope you like this suggestion,
- Fly

 

[DanStryder]

Are you referring to the charged fireblast? Because a normal shot from fireblast can be blocked by clicking at it.

If you are referring to the charged blast, some sort of deflection would be cool, like it would ricochet to either the left or right of you, complete redirection would require some sort of circular motion to curve it back round at the attacker, water and earth are easier to redirect as it's something physically there, fire isn't as phyical, it's pretty much light and heat, it ain't solid nor liquid

 

[WaterFan99]

uncharged fireblast can block an incoming charged blast too

 

[Vidcom]

I think the guy means specifically redirecting, rather than blocking, it. I personally think this should be a move

 

[DanStryder]

That's true, both types can block I guess xD I don't see the point in redirecting the normal blast as there's not much to the blast, charged blast would be more of an impact, I see it to be fairly hard to redirect it tbh

 

[owlcool]

I don't honestly see the point in redirecting this move, it is not like you can spam 7 of them like with watermanipulation,(and I thought fire was supposed to be the offensive element,) or even 2 of them like with earthblast(Rly? Earth is defensive, and it does more damage then fire, and can use more projectiles at once.) Air and Fire seem to be interpreted differently in the plugin from the show. Just me?
Besides, avatar wan was trained by dragons. I doubt many firebenders are taught by dragons on most bending servers. Airbenders weren't exactly using close ranged airswipe, they mostly used long ranged diagonal swipes.

 

[DanStryder]

I'm going by how the benders in the shows act, earth and water are a lot easier to block and redirect rather than fire tbh, like I said in the first post, I don't agree with non charged being redirected, charged might have a bit more reason but fire is always straight shots, you don't curve your shots, like Water and Earth

 

[owlcool]

I'm going by how the benders in the shows act, earth and water are a lot easier to block and redirect rather than fire tbh, like I said in the first post, I don't agree with non charged being redirected, charged might have a bit more reason but fire is always straight shots, you don't curve your shots, like Water and Earth

You are ABLE to curve your shots with water. And I don't see how fair 7 watermanipulations are to 1 fireblast when trying to block each other in mid air.

 

[Simplicitee]

I like this.

 

[owlcool]

I like this.

Firebending doesn't NEED redirection, it does not match the show or match how underpowered this would make firebending. Waterbending is able to use 7 water manipulations at once and has much better range then fireblast. Earth is able to use 3 earthblasts at once, AND it has much better range then fireblast. Fireblast can only use 1. Fireblast can be blocked with a watermanipulation, earthblast, can be easily dodged, etc. Fireblast does not need to be debuffed.

If you want me on your side, list a single non master that did this technique. Avatar wan doesn't count because he was trained by dragons, which seems to be quite the achievement. Korra did not use it, she used a blocking technique, she was at least on the verge of mastering firebending, she was a prodigy, and at that point she had trained for years. I don't see Azula using this. Yeah, less infrequent, much more uncommon.

 

[DanStryder]

You are ABLE to curve your shots with water. And I don't see how fair 7 watermanipulations are to 1 fireblast when trying to block each other in mid air.

No, I was agreeing with your point Owl. I said before that I can see the reasoning if it was the charged one that could be redirected, but otherwise I don't agree with it

 

[owlcool]

This technique adds some new styles to the plugin and gives Firebenders a new twist in Agni Kai.

I hope you like this suggestion,
- Fly

So you deliberately want firebending to be able to just spam a fireblast back and forth. Thanks for the debuff.

 

[DanStryder]

That can be said for water and earth. Owl chill out man /:

 

[RedBoy899]

Seriously owl, can people think outside of the box rather than being put down? I don't like how EVERY suggestion has to have a picture of the move. Just let some people have the limelight ;-;

 

[owlcool]

Seriously owl, can people think outside of the box rather than being put down? I don't like how EVERY suggestion has to have a picture of the move. Just let some people have the limelight ;-;

Seriusly dude? Is it impossible to say, No, lets not debuff this extremely underpowered, less cannon because it is underpowered, move?

 

[Moonelight]

If you are referring to the charged blast, some sort of deflection would be cool, like it would ricochet to either the left or right of you, complete redirection would require some sort of circular motion to curve it back round at the attacker.

Both, really. The way Wan used it, the people in control of the fire thrown at him were very unskilled. In the wiki the move they used was a weak move, Fire Ball or something like that.
And yeah, the circular motion I was going to suggest, but I wasn't to sure on how the community would react to it.

 

[Moonelight]

I like this.

Thanks

 

[Moonelight]

So you deliberately want firebending to be able to just spam a fireblast back and forth. Thanks for the debuff.

The Devs would balance out the move in the most reasonable way possible. You can't spam Fire Blast at a quick pace anyways so I don't see the problem there.

Owl chill out man /:

 

[Simplicitee]

Firebending doesn't NEED redirection, it does not match the show or match how underpowered this would make firebending. Waterbending is able to use 7 water manipulations at once and has much better range then fireblast. Earth is able to use 3 earthblasts at once, AND it has much better range then fireblast. Fireblast can only use 1. Fireblast can be blocked with a watermanipulation, earthblast, can be easily dodged, etc. Fireblast does not need to be debuffed.

If you want me on your side, list a single non master that did this technique. Avatar wan doesn't count because he was trained by dragons, which seems to be quite the achievement. Korra did not use it, she used a blocking technique, she was at least on the verge of mastering firebending, she was a prodigy, and at that point she had trained for years. I don't see Azula using this. Yeah, less infrequent, much more uncommon.

First off this isn't underpowered, it allows you to redirect a fireblast at a firebender, which is logical and perfectly cannon. And firebending isn't underpowered at all. Have you seen the new lighting? It is literally the bane of my existence (ask Fly, he knows). And why does being a master in the show redirecting fire matter? So far in the plugin we have flight (Master technique), bloodbending (master technique) and lavabending (master technique). And you are always talking about how fire is under powered (which it isn't) and whenever someone suggests a good move, you don't accept it for some stupid reasons. "it isn't cannon" newsflash: the series ended, we can now go about moves differently than before.

 

[DanStryder]

So I log back in after I've gone sleep to see my notifications full of Fly liking my posts xD

Back on topic, again as much as I can see the reasoning behind this, I don't really agree with this suggestion. My reasoning is that fire is mainly straight shots that don't curve or bend, so my first point is how would you make it look nice if it were to curve?

My second point is, because of the fire particles being fairly dense, no one is going to notice/see if the fire was redirected.

My last point is that with Water and Earth redirection, the moves have two separate uses due to the need of source selection, so if I was to redirect EarthBlast for example, I would just left click, this would redirect the earth without creating another Blast, now if I were to do this with Fire, it would create yet another fireblast which in my opinion would get confusing and annoying, what if you did not want to redirect a shot coming at you? You'd soon get pissed real quick if you're being attacked. I've noticed redirection is hard to land a hit for some weird reason, it's not down to my aim, it's more the blocks just don't hit the player, Water literally goes up and over the players head and Earth just disappears. This could also be the case with fire.

Hopefully this is more constructive and you don't take offence from my comments