By responding to one person, you involved yourself. By responding to the people who involved themselves, I well... I did just that, I responded to them lol. Not much else to say about that. I responded to one person, two people responded to me, I responded to both of them. I never called anyone out by name or anything. The choice to respond was all yours... I'd like to know where the criticism stopped... I'm sure it did stop at some point in this thread, but I'd like to know where YOU think it stopped so that I can respond with why. Again, taken too personal.... I'm sure it is annoying, I have no doubt. If I won't say it, who will? Mesk may, but he'll just get in the same situation I'm in. You want me to just pray to the heaves you'll figure everything out on your own? I can do that, but then what happens to community activity... I guess there's always the suggestions. Can you point out a time where it wasn't true or when it wasn't just? It may be negative but it's not like I say "You suck" and then run away. I give you solutions and criticism, what you do with that is all you. However, if I see a wrong I plan to speak about it. But every single time I see something wrong and point it out I get all these staffers just getting upset... Is it really too much to just point out an issue and get it solved? Omni was late. Monday is not apart of the weekend. 1 day. Is it a big deal? No, it really isn't. If this was the first or second time they've been late on a deadline, this never would have happened. If I never suggested NOT to give any specifics, this never would have happened. But unfortunately with the way things were handled things seem a bit ignored. I pointed it out so MAYBE, just maybe, fixes and improvements can be made but instead peeps got hurt personally. You made a mistake. Big deal. Just fix it and let's move on. By the whole dealine thing? Um no, I'm acting like I've been ignored. By the whole involvement thing? I mean I have been blamed in the past for things that were not my fault involving the whole authority thing. But I know that's not the point of the thread. That became the point when Arch didn't understand what was going on but we got that all solved Simp. Bad people for doing what? Again, people make mistakes. I'd just like people to own up to them rather than pass the blame around and dig up more drama. I brought up the deadline issue (because it's been a major issue in the past and apparently things weren't changed) and peeps got hurt.... It's NOT a big deal (in this scenario) so just accept, learn, and move on... And I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem when the situation is turned to me getting upset at a staff member doing things they don't have the authority to be doing when that's not really what happened. Call this "victimizing" if you like, but it happens. Sue me. I guess our concept of weeks is different. When I read the days of the week out loud I start with Monday and I end with Sunday. Implying Monday is the beginning of the week and Sunday is the end of the week. Of course, at this point it's just really opinionated and for some people Wednesday could be the end of the week. It's completely situational but I assume we're talking generally and this is what I was taught in kindergarten so. How many times must I say that this wasn't started because I was impatient.... Again, you guys are taking EVERYTHING so personal... Please go through the entire argument. I'm sure it'll do justice in this situation. Could you please point out something I said that was rude before post #70? The chore thing was sort of passive aggressive, I agree, but before that it was decently "diplomatic" I skimmed through it, didn't read it all, so I could be wrong. Because of this, I ask for evidence. If there is none, then I'll continue to say how it's funny when people speak the blunt truth their automatically considered rude. Again, this all could have been avoided. This event says otherwise tbh... But he did say "Expect a post" instead of "There will be a post on X day" so I guess that's improvement. (He = Omni) Yea and, as I've said in this argument, the "general" active community members (IE like 3-4 people lol) decided it'd be best if we stuck to vague-ness rather than exact answers. But I'm sure that message was either ignored or unheard by those who needed to hear it. There was a staff member involved in that debate and everything. It doesn't. That's why we had a community discussion on what to do about it and the general consensus was to stay vague... As I've said in this argument and countless others...... I gave you the key to happiness tho... It was just thrown away... Actually I'd congratulate you on your punctuation improvement. If I would "find something to shit on" really depends on the content you release. If it was a Core/Beta release I'd thank you for your work (Like I usually do) and then wait a few days before I test it and give feedback (Like I usually do). Imagine repeating yourself over and over :/ That's what I've done but yet I'm still "hostile" and "attacking" the entire staff team apparently.... I don't demand. I suggest. Whether you take it or not, that's up to y'all. However, when I see that I could have been right, that's when there's a moment of "I told ya so" and people tend to get butt hurt. So everybody hope you learned something today. Don't give them criticism, just seems like bad news... If there's an issue they'll figure it out eventually I guess. Good luck guys.