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  1. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    I just watched it. I can see what mesk meant by wave actually. You could say that it has the same charge as wave, but again the same effect could be derived from flow. So it REALLY can go either way...
  2. Madocean

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    " Q:"I don't think blasting surges from spout is canon, blasting slices from spout IS canon, shown in paku vs firenation, but I haven't seen surge please direct me to that one." A: Kya is literally proof of that in your gif. When I say spout, I meant the WAVE feature (left click water, hold...
  3. Madocean

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    It's literally just a better version of waterwave... It's in no way overpowered and unrealistic .-. You VERY often talk about things that are C O N F I G U R A B L E as being overpowered. It depends on the config. Don't be dishonest. ANDAGAIN it more closely resembles flow if you look at the...
  4. Madocean

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    "That's waterflow. She only raised ice as a pillar. It's pretty much the same principle as like in the game, when you're trying to freeze your opponent but (s)he manages to time it right with their jump and they get raised." Right, but this proves that the water itself can reach that high, that...
  5. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    She literally uses the same flow in form, shape and all in the attack... She's attacking with the FLOW. I agree about continuity but this is clearly all the same move. She used the flow inputs, held it for good timing, initiate flow, rode over to him on it, and then got off to use f l o w as an...
  6. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    It more cloesely resembles flow, it carries her and she's able to get off. You can't do that with wave. You can with flow. The flow would've knocked him back FOR SURE. He had to one, block the attack partially and two dodge it. Yeah I love this idea actually. The way I'd see it working with...
  7. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    A g a i n. Wave and flow are VERY different. I am a waterbender that uses flow to: Block attacks, move, set up combos and create structures influencing position. There's legit no way wave could do these things. Clearly I can counter your standpoint.
  8. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    I just read that, not sure why I left that in the edit. It was mostly directed at Mesk's For my own sakes, I'll reposting them in direct images. I didn't see anything or waterflow retated. In function, the last two are just torrents and (and I reminded, just because its prettier doesn't mean...
  9. Madocean

    Looking Into Waterwave rework

    The way this move looks like it's going is mobile frostbreath xD
  10. Madocean

    Looking Into Waterwave rework

    That would basically be making surgejet into waterwave... It would make more sense just to remove it in that case.
  11. Madocean

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    Does that convert the link into a gif? I'll try it. Gif: [Test]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dc/bd/77/dcbd77e8829b42510450582109571489.gif[/image] I mean that obviously didn't work, and actually further ruined the formatting...
  12. Madocean

    Denied Watermanipulation interactions

    I'm incapable of posting images/gifs on the device I use... If you won't look at the gifs don't respond? They covered all of your points... But to quickly address your torpedo thing, Waterspout XD You just described Waterspout XD Height limit would be configurable for flow aswell. Also, the full...
  13. Madocean

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    I never said it wasn't canon, I just said I couldn't see a use for it. But we already solved this so.... I wasn't talking to you... I was adressing Mesk This one is more like WaterWave being source-able since what Kya used is LITERALLY the WaterSpout we see in the plugin.. Uh, this is LITERALLY...
  14. Madocean

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    I mean, it would add to waters versatility. It's 100% canon. Kya vs Ming Hua. Nuff Said XD Okay so, "Never I seen a waterbend launch someone up in the air like a drunk TORPEDO" I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I think you mean water propelling people up, I agree and disagree at the same...
  15. Madocean

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    So to adress these comments, first one, completely agree. It looks EXACTLY like waterflow which should be a stock move and I'll get into that tomorrow. It should just have a cd :P The reason these concepts are suggested so often is because they're desired by like MOST waterbenders.
  16. Madocean

    Debate: Should Self-SurgeJet work on Land?

    I mean it'd for sure be faster so predictability wouldn't matter it would just add to the balance in that it's op but very easy to counter, again the work and reward mechanic. I mean, if you can find more than 5 players in a bending arena as of recent please inform me. I already said it was a...
  17. Madocean

    Debate: Should Self-SurgeJet work on Land?

    It would be raiseearth and smash or blast, maybe a mix. Yeah cd = cooldown Short range meaning anywhere from 5-15 blocks. It would warrant a lower charge since you'd have to get close. Getting close means there's less distance between you and the enemy meaning it's likely an attack will be...
  18. Madocean

    Debate: Should Self-SurgeJet work on Land?

    Exactly See but shockwave isn't really useful in PK due to its charge, theres just 4 other moves that outweigh its usefulness. I honestly think it would be better served as a long cd short range combo. Maybe 2-5 inputs so it's not instantaneous, or even just a delay. Right now tho it's...
  19. Madocean

    Debate: Should Self-SurgeJet work on Land?

    So, for shockwave, Korra displayed a no charge version of it while escaping Tarrlok's prison unit. If I can find a gif I'll update this post. The only move I've really seen have a charge in the show is firecomet displayed by Iroh in the final fight.
  20. Madocean

    Debate: Should Self-SurgeJet work on Land?

    I mean, I think there should be a move that pushes you that isn't waterwave, but I don't see why that isn't a good use for surge either. Maybe surge should keep its current function, receiving a revamp actually making it less pheasable for pushing others. However, to take the place of its...
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